"This is not a vaccine, this is essentially a gene therapy." - Joe Rogan
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"I don't think it's true there's an increased risk of myocarditis from people catching Covid-19 that are young, versus the risk from the vaccine." - Joe Rogan
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’Healthy young people don’t need a Covid vaccine’ - Joe Rogan
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“third of the population [is] basically being hypnotized” to believe the mainstream media and Anthony S. Fauci by something called “mass-formation psychosis.” - Virologist Dr. Robert Malone.
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Hyperbolic, but true
"people who are vaccinated after having Covid-19 are at greater risk of adverse side effects." - Virologist Dr. Robert Malone.
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"Ivermectin alone is capable of driving this pathogen to extinction." - Bret Weinstein is a biology professor at Evergreen State College
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The guest last month was cardiologist Peter McCullough, who also spoke of “mass psychosis."
McCullough claimed the pandemic was “planned” and that early treatments were deliberately suppressed “in order to promote fear, suffering, isolation, hospitalization and death.” - Cardiologist Peter McCullough
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“the virus is not spread asymptomatically.” - Cardiologist Peter McCullough
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“you can’t get [the coronavirus] twice” and that natural immunity was basically “permanent.” - Cardiologist Peter McCullough
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But unlike Greene, Malone has a medical degree. He bills himself as the "inventor" of mRNA vaccines and has leveraged that title to push one false claim after another.
"He’s a legitimate scientist, or at least was until he started to make these false claims," said Dr. Paul Offit, chair of vaccinology at the University of Pennsylvania’s Perelman School of Medicine.
Malone, who did not respond to an emailed request for comment, received a medical degree from Northwestern University in 1991 and specializes in immunology, according to his license with the Maryland Board of Physicians. As then-chief medical officer for a Florida pharmaceutical company called Alchem Laboratories Corp., he was involved during the early stages of the coronavirus pandemic in research looking into Pepcid, the heartburn medicine, as a potential COVID-19 treatment.
Malone markets himself as the "inventor" of mRNA and DNA vaccines on his website and LinkedIn profile. His Twitter account, before it was suspended, said the same thing.
There’s some merit to that claim, as several reporters and fact-checkers have documented.
Malone contributed to important early research. A pair of papers he coauthored with two other researchers in 1989 and six other researchers in 1990 showed that mRNA could be delivered into cells using lipids, and that doing so with mice could trigger the production of new proteins. The two papers were the first reference in a 2019 history of the mRNA vaccine technology.
Oddly, the things said on Rogan's Podcast have also been said on media outlets like CNN (worse ones were too, like the doc that believes SARS2 was causes by sleeping with demons[1]) as well.
Some of the things labeled "misinformation" are not[2]. Only about half the claims made were false (as was "the vaccine prevents infection" and "Herd immunity will be here by August 2021" [3] pubished in mainstream media. Pro-vaccine misinformation is given a miss, anti vaccine misinformation is the worse thing ever apparently)
Some are just zany and Rogan disagreed with them as soon as they were spoken[4].
[1] "A Doctor Promoted by Trump Is Also Concerned About the Side Effects of Having Sex With Demons"
Global News: https://globalnews.ca/news/7229174/coronavirus-demon-sperm-doctor-trump/
[2] In a BBC article (https://www.bbc.com/news/60199614) entitled "Joe Rogan: Four claims from his Spotify podcast fact-checked" By the "BBC Reality Check team" said one of Rogans claims was "Claim: For young people, the health risks from the vaccine are greater than from Covid". The BBC's argument was: "myocardidtis was considerably more common after a Covid infection than after vaccination. " - True - but in OLD PEOPLE, not in young ones. The problem with the shot in young kids is the risk of Myocardidtis is higher than the risk of severe COVID symptoms.
Even rabid pro-vaccine MD's point this out, to wit: in a recent article in Atlantic: Dr. Paul Offit, perhaps the most high profile provaccine physician-scientist in America, who was on the FDA panel told The Atlantic, he wouldn’t advise a booster for his healthy son in his 20s, or a healthy male in his teens, because the risks of myocarditis (higher in males) outweigh the benefits. Dr. Offit rejects the CDC’s and FDA’s all-or-nothing approach to children’s vaccination. https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2022/01/should-teens-get-booster-omicron/621222/
So here we have a Newspaper journalist, who for all we know was selling shoes last year, contradicts an MD who is an expert in this field.
That is perhaps why it's called "misinformation" and not "lies". Lies are when you say something factually incorrect, "misinformation" is when you say something contrary to instituional. propaganda.
So here the BBC attempted to prove something was "misinformation" despite the fact experts in the field point out it's actually true. Bad BBC. No dinner. What good is fact checking when the fact checkers are clueless? Shoulf The Atlantic be taken to task the same way Rogan was? It published the same "misinformation" as Rogan did! Sheesh. More weasel words from the BBC: "Covid itself has been found to be a bigger risk than the vaccines in every age group for which they have been approved." - Sure, not the "in every age group for which they have been approved" part. There's a reason they're not approved for all age groups! For them the vaccine is more or a risk than the disease. If you look at the stats the younger the China the less likely infection is. Only one kid under 1 dies of this in China. One. Compare this to flu which takes a terrible toll on the young.
[3] Pfizer’s CEO, Albert Bourla, said the vaccine was still offering strong protection at the six-month mark and “indicators right now … are telling us that there is a protection against the transmission of the disease.
https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/pfizer-ceo-albert-bourla-calls-israel-worlds-lab-in-interview-to-nbc-660349
Ugur Sahin of BioNTech (which developed the vaccine for Pfizer) said the EU could see herd immunity by July or August 2021
https://www.dw.com/en/covid-biontech-chief-says-europe-could-achieve-herd-immunity-in-summer/a-57365510
[4] Washpo reports: "The guest last month was cardiologist Peter McCullough who said ''you can’t get [the coronavirus] twice''"
"Rogan, to his credit, pushed back on this last one, saying he knew people who had multiple infections."
Note in all these cases Rogan's guests are not random nutjobs. They are all MD's except for one who was a University professor of evolutionary Biology. Rogan is not a scientist and can hardly be expected to know if MD's are spouting nonsense - perhaps the blame should be with them not Rogan. If we don't criticise CNN (and so many others) for pubicizing the beliefs of MD's who are a little "out there" why does Rogan take the heat for doing the same as CNN, The Atlantic and others?
